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Indian firm signs up with HDT to offer a multi-fuel motorcycle designed to run primar

http://www.bikesales.com.au/news/2011/trail/altius-scimitar-diesel-motorcycle-24863

In the automobile world, diesel cars are widely represented and some brands offer a diesel option for every petrol model available. The same, however, cannot be said about the motorcycle world.

Which is why whenever a diesel-powered motorcycle rears its head people sit up and take notice.

Making use of the same powertrain that provides motive force for the Hayes Diversified Technologies (HDT) M1030-M2 LE 670 (based on the Kawasaki KLR650), the Altius Scimitar dual-purpose motorcycle offers the same 33hp (24kW) output and multi-fuel operation, but in a more modern looking package.

Altius Automotive Technologies, an Indian outfit based in Chennai, has teamed up with HDT to create the Scimitar, which appears to be very similar to the Kawasaki KLR650, albeit with a more urbane paint scheme.

Power comes from a modified Kawasaki KLR650 engine, a single-cylinder liquid-cooled four-stroke mill that has been revamped by HDT to run on numerous fuel types, including diesel and biodiesel. It will also run on several military fuel variants like JetA1, AVTUR, JP5, JP8 aviation kerosene and AVCAT. Understandably, the military is likely to take a keen interest in a diesel-capable motorcycle.

Equipped with a 14lt fuel tank, the Altius Scimitar has a theoretical range of around 600km when filled with diesel, and has a top speed of roughly 150km/h.

What are your thoughts on diesel motorcycles - would consider riding one if it was offered in Australia? Leave your opinion in the comments box below.

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Published : Monday, 16 May 2011

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http://quadheads.com/forums/showthread.php?11408-Klr-diesel&p=190733
Fred Hayes currently holds eight world and four national land speed records on motorcycles. This month he’ll try to better those records and add another -- all on diesel-powered bikes. Fred Hayes is an experienced motorcycle rider, earning top honors in several American motorcycle riding competitions through the years. In 2003, Hayes was awarded a platinum medal at the UK National Rally, the competition’s highest award. Since then Hayes has ridden two HDT USA diesel motorcycles to the first recognized land speed records for diesel motorcycles at the salt flats of Bonneville, Utah. Hayes’ experience with motorcycles goes far beyond competition, though. He has been with Hayes Diversified Technologies (HDT USA) since the company’s beginning in 1961 and has led the company to become the largest supplier of military motorcycles to the U.S. Defense Department. Hayes is HDT’s president, C.E.O. and chief engineer. In addition, Hayes was a primary consultant to the Motorcycle Safety Foundation and the U.S. Marine Corps during the development of the Marine Corps’ Military Motorcycle Operator Training Course and still holds credentials as a Military Motorcycle Chief Instructor. In short, Hayes knows motorcycles. He builds them and rides them, and does both in a superior fashion.
Hayes Diversified Technologies HDT USA develops and manufactures

http://www.adventurebikerider.com/c...dian-made-deisel-adventure-bike-for-2012.html

Tata Veteran BVR Subbu was the man entrusted with building the Hyundai brand in India . And that's what he did, leaving Hyundai as the second largest car maker in India. Now, Subbu has focused his ambitions on a diesel engine manufacturing unit in Chennai called Altius Automotive Technologies.

Altius is partnered by Hayes Diversified Technologies, an American firm engaged in supply of military vehicles and equipment principally to the US Army. Hayes also was instrumental in fitting a 670cc diesel/multifuel engine onto the Kawasaki KLR650′s chassis to come up with the HDT Diesel Motorcycle for the US Army - the army wanted a single fuel to work across it’s vehicle range.





And that's the background to the motorcycle we’re talking about here, the Altius Scimitar 670 Diesel, which is set to launch in India in 2012. What you get is essentially the enduro frame of a Kawasaki KLR650 mated to a 670cc multifuel diesel engine designed by HDT.

It's an indirect diesel engine hooked up to a five speed manual gearbox, the engine is slow revving but good for about 33 Bhp and the torque output is 54 Nm. Altius claims to achieve 96mpg at a constant 56mph giving a potential tank range of 408 miles. The price of the Altius Scimitar 670 is set to be around £2400.




http://www.klrforum.com/showthread.php?t=10909

It's interesting that Hayes Diversified --which builds the diesel engines for the USMC version of the KLR is apparently selling its blueprints to an Indian
company.
Hayes reportedly talked about selling a version of their Diesel Bike in the U-S, but the cost was something on the order of 20-grand.
Methinks the Indian version will be much cheaper...

meanwhile--back in 2005
 
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he has wanted a diesel motorcycle for 20 years.

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/305/1...e/2011-Quail-Motorcycle-Gathering-Review.aspx

“This is my interpretation of a motorcycle built around this amazing Vincent engine, keeping really true to the hardcore engineering that existed in the ‘50s which for its day was really ahead of its time,” Barry said.

Its frame, fork, brakes, tanks, bars, controls, and seat were all made by Falcon Motorcycles. Barry used modern forgings to remake the fork blades and utilized non-corrosive stainless in a lot of areas which was cost prohibitive back when the original Vincent was created. No fasteners touch paint, and Barry applied modern metallurgy and know-how in its construction like using titanium for weight reduction. He revised the Girdraulic fork by redesigning and lightening it. The Black Falcon’s stainless steel oil tank is unique, with slick cooling fins and a glass center on the oil tank cap so the rider can check for oil return without taking off the cap. Barry hammered out two different tanks by hand from aluminum, one “Roadster” style and one “Drag” tank. The “Drag” tank has a leather chin pad so riders can crouch into the bike for drag runs. On the original Vincent, Phil Irving created the bike so the rider could easily adjust its brakes, chain tensioner, riding position and gearing without tools. Barry made the Black Falcon with the same principles in mind, as its handlebars can be set in six different positions, the front and back wheels can be removed sans tools and the dual gas tanks can also quickly be switched out thanks to spring-loaded pins and vibration-damped rubber O-rings. The Black Falcon is the type of bike you can stare at for hours appreciating the attention to detail because it is only then the details slowly divulge themselves. Barry stated his concern for how the Black Falcon would be received by Vincent purists, but “For them, they said, ‘You know what, it’s all right,’ which means that’s resounding in itself,” Barry said smiling.



http://www.craigvetter.com/pages/2011- Fuel Economy Contests/2011-Quail-results.html

The route was a 133.5 mile loop beginning and ending at Carmel, CA. The route out was mountainous, cresting a 2500 ft pass. The route back was Highway 101 - the famous El Camino Real. Speeds were well over 70 mph, into fierce, 30 mph+ winds. This was a very challenging day.
 
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diesel conversions knowledgebase

http://www.4btswaps.com/forum/showthread.php?17586-Ruggerini-Dnepr-diesel&p=153388

Ruggerini Dnepr diesel
Here is a few pictures of my 954cc Ruggerini powered Dnepr project.

Ruggerini is now owned by Kohler. It makes about 23HP at 3600 industrial but should make a fair amount more for my use with massive cooling air availible. Makes about the same torque as the old Triumph (Bonnyville etc) bikes did but not an many rpm.

A Dnepr is a Russian "more or less coppy" of a WW2 BMW side car built in the Ukrane on the Dnepr river.

I hope to run it in an economy motorcycle run in May.

I plan to turbo and intrercool it.

I expect over 100 mpg at highway speed.

It has a 4 speed with reverse and I have 3.5 ratio gears to go in the final drive.

I bought the addapter and frame from my friend Dave. He had a Hatz diesel and a 2 wheel drive side car on it.

I bought faster transmission gears from Poland.

I found a BMW front fork and wheel and a 1944 IHC head light to put on it since the original forks didn't come with the frame.
 
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It,s a green bike !!

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...cle&cd=67&hl=sv&ct=clnk&source=www.google.com

http://a1biofuel.net/Diesel-Bike-Pics.html

"This started life as a 1984 Kawasaki 454 LTD.

It uses a diesel V-twin 22hp
CVT comet 94 "duster"
Twin tank system- one for biodiesel, and the other for vegoil.
Fuel pump and heating element to bring the veg to optimum temp.
Custom color. He gave me a color code and I shot it. Ick. You pay, I shoot, though.
does 75 mph well.

Fabricated parts-
Frame to fit the diesel and transmission
Stainless exhaust headers
Cvt cover
Misc brackets and such
Change out from rear belt drive to chain,
etc, etc"

See the original forum thread at:
contracted bike done and gone - Schuman Automotive /Forums



I found this over on a Mercedes Benz forum!

Again, one of those fun project which I am not sure to file it under Motorcycle or Fossil-Fuel-Free!

-Ben
 
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Homemade Biodiesel – The Solution to Rising Oil Costs

http://articlecollector.com/?p=8472

Many Americans are feeling the pain of high gas prices. It is getting to the point where people have to undertake drastic measures because nobody else is going to help them ease the burden of high gas prices. The concern is that there has been too much dependence on gas and reduction in use has been a tough act to undertake.

What people are not realizing is that there alternatives to gasoline. Biodiesel is one of the alternative fuel sources that has seen a tremendous rise in use and popularity since the beginning of the gas price hike

What is Biodiesel?

Biodiesel is an alternative fuel source that is made from common ingredients that are safe, renewable and clean. Biodiesel can be made on both large and small scales. You can even make your own Biodiesel at home.

How is Biodiesel Made?

Biodiesel is made using alcohol, lye and water. The ingredients are mixed together, allowed to settle and then the Biodiesel is separated from the bi-product, glycerin, and can be used in any diesel running engine.

What Makes Biodiesel Better Than Gasoline?

There are many reasons why Biodiesel is better than gasoline. Here are the main reasons why Biodiesel is the answer to high gas prices:
 
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The Changzuki

http://www.utterpower.com/

If you want to know something about electrical energy production, ask the experts who make it at the wholesale level.

Notice their mention of efficiency. We need understand that they are declaring their CAES system efficient relative to other energy storage schemes, and with the help of their huge economies of scale and possibly a huge amount of waste heat from an adjacent convention natural gas turbine to help heat the compressed air coming out of storage. The losses in such a system are still significant, but they are charging their storage facility with surplus (inexpensive) KWHs off peak, and they are selling the peak hours for far more money than most people understand.

Glue Sniffers and Flower Children alike are attracted to the Indian Air Powered Tata Nano, a car that was announced to go into production some years ago, but still a pipe dream do to the fact the car is totally impractical. For those who measure the losses in the overall effort to charge the air powered car, they understand the staggering losses, and just how much fuel you still need to burn aboard the car to put the compressed air to work.



http://diesel-bike.com/Aurora/aurora.html

I assume no liability for what you may see on this page. In the same way that some people should never have any sharp objects, I do not advocate or encourage doing anything shown on this page. With that said, proceed at your own risk and enjoy the show! = CrazyJerry


http://www.diesel-bike.com/Diesel_Bike/Suzuki.html

I assume no liability for what you may see on this page. In the same way that some people should never have any sharp objects, I do not advocate or encourage doing anything shown on this page. With that said, proceed at your own risk and enjoy the show! = CrazyJerry




http://diesel-bike.com/SMF/index.php

Forum med diesel snack

http://www.diesel-bike.com/Lister_Gen/Lister1.html

The challenge:

Find a diesel engine and generator that will hold up over the long haul and not break the bank!
Make sure there is a readily available parts base in case of a failure.
Since I am my own warranty, simplicity and customer support are mandatory!
Should be water cooled since excess heat will be utilized.
Must be of a tolerable noise level since it will be inside the house on the main floor.
Finally, it has to be fuel efficient or it will not be able to compete with the grid over time.
This may seem an easy task but on an annual income of less than $10k a year, this can be a challenge. Lucky for me to have found such a unit that meets all of my criteria!

Solution, the Lister diesel generator!
These units meet all criteria, have an incredible lifespan if properly setup, and are available from George at utterpower.com

Here is a great photo that George sent me when the power unit was loaded and sent from Washington to New York.
Check out the beefy frame on this 6 horsepower monster!




http://www.diesel-bike.com/Petter_Gen/Petter1.html

In the quest for a hearty, long-life generator, we decided to give the diesel Petter style, or Petter Clone, a try. This unit is a hand crank start only, and is quite simple in technology by today's standards. The info below pretty much tells the whole story.....

The Petter Generator overview:

Metro – by Metex of India

12 horsepower @ 1800 rpm
7500 watts
1200 pound shipping weight
fuel consumption depends on load
Est life = 50,000 hours/ 5.7 years cont
Will run on:

-Diesel
-Fuel oil
-Kerosene
-Biodiesel
-Vegetable\soybean oil
Co-gen: does two jobs:

-provides additional power
-provides warmth by capturing excess heat!
A barrel or an old water tank can be substituted for the radiator, water pump and belt...(eliminating potential failure points.)



http://diesel-bike.com/Wood_Splitter/Electro-Split.htm

The challenge:

Find a logsplitter that will hold up over the long haul and not break the bank!
Make sure there is a readily available parts base in case of a failure.
Since I am my own warranty, simplicity and customer support are mandatory!
Should be as fast or faster than mainstream wood splitters.
Must be of a tolerable noise level since it may be inside the house/woodshed during inclement weather.
Finally, it has to be very fuel efficient or it will not fit into my off-grid endeavor.
This was not an easy task, but I have pieced together a simple solution that meets all of the criteria!

Solution: Electrified SuperSplit Woodsplitter!




http://www.diesel-bike.com/System/9Main.htm

This is my first diesel generator. It worked very well for the one winter I used it. Because it was inside the house, I was easily able to extract the excess heat it produced making my fuel dollar go further! This was an EBay Special and came with no support.
I still have it today although it's outside used as a back-up generator. Why did I change? See the Lister page on this site for a dandy of a generator with twice the lifespan and half the noise! http://www.diesel-bike.com/Lister_Gen/Lister1.html
That page even has some video clips of it running!



Copyright 2005-2010 JB Enterprise
http://diesel-bike.com

Crazy Jerry's Diesel Motorcycle Conversion CD!
 
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Bikes Using Kawasaki Parts

http://www.dieselbike.net/kawasaki/kawasaki.htm

The HDT-RMCS motorcycle is a collaborative venture between Hayes Diversified Technologies (HDT) of California and RMCS to develop a production diesel motorcycle. The engine was designed at RMCS and is being produced by HDT. Development has been undertaken jointly by HDT and RMCS. The bike uses a Kawasaki KLR 650 rolling chassis, modified for military use. Current status of the project is that pre-production bikes have been fully trialled and evaluated by the US Marine Corps. As a result of these trials, the USMC has now accepted the bike for service, and production is expected to commence next year. USMC currently has gasoline KLR650s in service and all these will ultimately be converted for the diesel engine. The UK MoD currently has several bikes under test, and other NATO armies, including France and Germany, have expressed serious interest. We are now looking at other applications, both motorcycle and non-motorcycle, for this engine technology. However, there are NO immediate plans to offer the motorcycle to civilian customers, as we are presently fully committed in satisfying military orders. It is possible that a civilian version of the bike will be made available eventually but this the cost would be about 20% up from a standard bike. For the forseeable future, while the Military are swallowing the cost of this machine, they are unlikely to want to see it sold cheaply to the general public.
Based on a Kawasaki KLR650 the current version of the bike sports a 670cc engine is designed to run on either diesel or aviation kerosene. Some parts from the original engine, such as the generator, have been used on the new machine in order to save money but essentially this motorcycles engine is completely new. This makes this machine completely unique, it being the first purpose built diesel motorcycle engine ever built.
 
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Homemade Diesel V6 Motorcycle

http://blog.motorcycle.com/2009/03/02/design/homemade-diesel-v6-motorcycle/

For as long as motorcycles have been around, so too has there been an interest in modifying them. While many people opt for pin striping or aftermarket exhaust pipes, Michael Sturtz decided to drop a diesel V6 engine into his motorcycle. Sturtz and his team from an industrial-arts group called the Crucible based out of Oakland, CA. started with an older model motorcycle and began the painstaking process of shoehorning a BMW V6 engine into the chassis.


After spending over a month rebuilding the frame, redirecting hoses and cables and designing a biodiesel-friendly fuel system, they ran into a large obstacle; the computer went into theft mode. Due to their tinkering, the security system flagged the car as stolen and shut down. After some tinkering and a few calls to BMW, they issue was rectified.


Power is transmitted to the rear tire via a chain gear system fitted onto the motor and the gearbox. The crank on the motor side has twice the number of teeth on the gearbox side, giving a top engine speed of 8,200rpm. Their speed record using the current setup is 130mph but they are hoping to break into the 160mph range within the next few months. Perhaps the most fascinating aspect of all is the fact that the bike is somehow street legal.
 
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Homemade Dyno Finshed

http://www.suckindiesel.com/thingy/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=1224


I’ve posted some pictures of my Yanmar dyno on photobucket. Basically the engine is connected to a hydraulic brake from a Honda Civic. The disk and caliper ride on the same shaft, but the disk is attached to the shaft with a keyway, while the caliper mount has a bearing that allows it to stay stationary. The brake caliper’s mount also has a lever that extends 12 inches from the center of the shaft and is attached to a 50lbs fishing scale which stops the caliper from rotating. Whenever I apply the brake, force is exerted on the scale giving me ft/lbs. I apply braking force until the engine loads down to the RPM I want to measure HP at. Since I have a tachometer mounted above the scale I know the ft/lbs of torque @ RPM.
Ft/lbs X RPM X 5252 = Horsepower
I’ve made an initial test run which worked pretty well. I may replace the brake lever with a screw type mechanism from a large C-clamp. This would allow a more gradual and steady increase in load, making it easier to hold an RPM. Also, I run the shaft at ½ the engine RPM to decrease the likelihood of an exploding brake disk and so I can use a bicycle speedo for a tachometer. I have not been able to get a speedo/tach to read higher than about 2100 RPM. I'll be adding machine guards soon.
 
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Diesel Powered Bobber Chopper

http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2006/03/20/diesel-powered-bobber-chopper/


the build started when his son began a science project on renewable fuels. When they got caught up in the idea of making their own fuel the next logical step was building a bike to try it out.

They started with a Honda CJ360 frame. Next up was a 9hp Yanmar diesel along with a tank and seat, all found on ebay. They added a Comet torque-a-verter, the choice of mini chopper builders everywhere, plus assorted pieces from other suppliers. As Bruce tells it:

The rigid frame was fab'd out of 1020 mild steel tubing, 1 1/2" for main down tubes and 1" for all other tubes. All welds were mig done by an experienced welder. The frame was molded with NAPA ultralight filler and painted dark grey using a textured paint called Hammerite. All electrics are hidden in a metal flower-pot under the seat (to keep with the bio-friendly theme). To complete the bio theme, we airbrushed the tank and fender using gold base coat, leafs were done in black using freehand stencils, then it was covered by 7-8 coats of green apple candy (all Createx AutoAir). Cleared using Napa rattle can. It gives a nice color shift effect that doesn’t show up in the photos.




Diesel Powered Bobber Chopper
 
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Diesel Bike Ideas

Innovation wise a diesel bike is an old idea, Royal Enfield (India) had a production utility bike called the Taurus, 1000mpg from a 3 gallon tank. Power wise they're never going to compete with gas bikes of similar size and displacement. But thats where the comparison goes wrong, they shouldn't be compared to modern sport bikes. You wouldn't put a diesel Jetta into the same category as a Lamborghini, and thats what you're doing. Aside form the fact that there are no production diesel bikes, Hayes diversified doesn't count, comparing a homemade diesel in a rigid frame to a ZX14 is kind of ridiculous. Diesel bikes have a huge following, and there a thousands of examples of home made diesel bikes. I've seen everything from a Peugoet V6 diesel car engine to a single cyinder cement mixer diesel engine, shoe horned into everything from production bike frames with full race spec suspensions, to rigid hand bent frames with girder front ends. It can be done, and had been done a thousand times before, saying it is a waste of time is kind of a little pot calling the kettle black. After all, why tear off all the factory applied and windtunnel tested plastics, to better the bike? Hardly. Neccesity is not the mother of invention, more often than not something is invented, and then a use is found for it.


http://www.customfighters.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38582&page=3
 
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projekt dieselbike

This is a 954cc Ruggerini twin cylinder (23hp @3600 rpm) £250-£300 second hand, and gives my bike 136mpg. It revs to 3700rpm, but by fitting a turbo it will run at 4200 rpm (not that I have done it).

There was a little confusion about revs and over revving of this engine right up to the point where the engine had finished running in, the bike would only reach 73mph. I was not happy at all, thinking oh no, the bike will now have to be over revved to achieve a decent speed. But the confusion was cleared up when I fitted a Tiny Tach rev counter, she was revving to 3000rpm and not the 3600rpm as the seller of this engine stated. Seeing plenty of adjustment in the throttle stops I made the assumption that it could rev to 4200rpm if the stops were opened fully. My assumption was based on Dave Cummins turbo charged version of this engine reaching 4200rpm.

After opening the throttle stops (3600rpm), the top end is vastly improved and 90mph looks very likely. But this is achieved only by changing the gear box ratios (overdrive) and drive sprockets to suit. I can't emphasize enough how important spot on gearing is, it really makes a world of difference.

The fuel curve (best fuel economy) is 2300rpm and with the current gearing the bike reaches this at 58mph.


http://www.dieselbiker.co.uk/1948ariel.htm
 
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Alltså, Woody, du får snart pris i att posta inlägg med endast länkar.
Sammanställ dom i ETT inlägg istället, och uppdatera inlägget därefter. Bara ett tips ;)
 
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hoppman skrev:
Alltså, Woody, du får snart pris i att posta inlägg med endast länkar.
Sammanställ dom i ETT inlägg istället, och uppdatera inlägget därefter. Bara ett tips ;)
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:cool: inläggena handlar om olika saker ,som du nog kan se på rubrikerna

Knör in intressanta saker när det dyker upp !

och jag lägger inte mer energi än så här på det hela !!

Du får gärna bidra om du hittar nån intressant diesel sida & diesel nyhet nånstanns !!

sola skiner ~nu ska jag ut o åka diesel båge !!
 
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hoppman skrev:
Alltså, Woody, du får snart pris i att posta inlägg med endast länkar.
Sammanställ dom i ETT inlägg istället, och uppdatera inlägget därefter. Bara ett tips ;)
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:rolleyes: Benägen att hålla med, omöjligt att hålla reda på alla länkar. Det fanns en intressantare tråd om diesel men den stängdes på grund av synpunkter och diskussion. :rolleyes:
 
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woody skrev:
24,924 besökare på denna tråd och

3 Stycken , som inte var tillfreds¨vad blir det i "promille" ??
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:( Tråkigt att du blir så irriterad för minsta antydan till kritik. :(

Denna tråden innehåller ett otal länkar men ingen diskussion och det saknar jag verkligen. För min del anser jag att ämnet är väldigt intressant och tål gott att vridas och vändas för att synas från olika håll. Ofrånkomligt att det blir en del "Off Topic"

Jag är ju en av dom tre men jag är kanske 100 - 200 av dom 24.924 också så ditt sätt att räkna övertygar inte.

Dieseldrift av MC är ett väldigt bra alternativ och det finns en potential som man i nuläget bara kan se på bilsidan men som jag hoppas kan komma även på 2 hjul.

Ta det lugnt - slappna av och debattera utan att bli förbannad för då blir du ju bara arg :) ;)
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